Dumb: Climbing a mountain with no experience. Dumber: asking someone who has never climbed a Mountain to do it. Darwin dumb: It was AI

Every time I am thinking about AI, there is a fatal concept that comes to mind with AI, it has never done anything but, it can explain it in concept it but not much else.

Three novice hikers from Roseville were stranded overnight on Mt. Shasta after following Google’s Gemini AI for route and packing advice, turning an expected eight-hour climb into a multi-day ordeal in Mud Creek Canyon.

What.. the fuck.. asking gemini for instructions to climb a mountain is like asking google maps to guide you through a city when you forget its in pedestrian mode. You will go down more than a few one ways backwards and likely end up with mr police officier asking if you are on something.

In what authorities are calling a “critical misstep,” three hikers relied heavily on Google’s Gemini AI to guide them through a Mt. Shasta summit, leaving them stranded on the mountain’s southeastern flank.

A critical misstep is understatement of the century, what is next for our enterprising adventurers climbing Mt Everest and ignoring sherpa’s that have boots on the ground for centuries and going “Nah dude we got this with AI!” .

In a post on Facebook, the Sheriff’s Office said, “The men summited at 7:00 pm that evening, well after the recommended turnaround time of 12:00 pm, and descended in the dark.”
Officials said that, an hour into their descent, the group called the Siskiyou County Sheriff’s Office Dispatch to ask for directions but eventually wandered off route into Mud Creek Canyon.
That evening, one of the hikers fell and suffered a knee injury.

Our heroes here failed in so many ways it’s not funny. AI is not a magic device that makes you superior at doing things it makes you stupider at doing things if you have no concept of how to do it. AI has never climbed a mountain, AI has never gone to work in new york through the subways and over road routes. it has a “concept” of all of this but it has never done it for itself and this makes AI a bad companion when the user does not know how to do things. If you are talking to AI about installing a 240v supply for your washing machine and use the same prompt later for building a PC you never know if the AI will amalgamate the two together and it tries to make you a PC powered at 240V .

If you are clueless and you have no idea how to do something, Start with the basics like “I want to go up Mt Shasta”. Than ask yourself what does it take to go up Mt Shasta , OH YEAH CLIMBING. our heroes were young here and likely from a university, firstly they could of checked at the uni if there was any climbing or hiking groups. Secondly, they could of reached out to any local climbing place and say ” hi, I do not have much climbing experience and want to climb Mt Shasta.” In two tenths of a second the guy at the climbing place is going to do one of two things, If he just answers the question he’d say “NO don’t do it ” Or if the guy is into his craft “no, please don’t do it, our Climbing group goes to Mt Shasta twice a year and its not recommended for novice, How about I offer you an introductory to climbing course at 25% off?”

We need to stop acting like AI is the mastery of anything, if anything the AI is the master of average, It takes the sum of human intelligence and averages it out. That is AI’s ability. It can’t fathom new ideas, It can NOT figure out how much rocks have fallen on Mt Shasta, Microclimates, our Heroes Abilities or disabilities.

At Mushroom Rock (12,800 ft), another climbing party warned them to turn around. They ignored them and kept climbing into the dark. This is class A dumbarrery at an epic level. Because at the simplest of levels walk around your house… Than blackout every window in the house and try that again. You will fail.

Reading further….. what .. oh What the fuck..

The incident occurred days before Google announced its multi-year partnership with Beast Industries, a company founded by YouTube influencer Jimmy Donaldson, also known as his media personality MrBeast, who produces viral spectacles online.
According to the announcement, on Sunday a new MrBeast video will follow Donaldson and his crew as they attempt to survive “some of the most extreme and treacherous climates on Earth.”
Teams will race to navigate the jungle, the desert and the Arctic using Google’s Gemini to help them identify dangers and survive “brutal weather.”

This will end well? But Mr Beast has millions of dollars and some experience here so I guess he will do well, but this idea is fucking horrible because it’s going to cause more heroes for Mt Shasta. Those rescues are not cheap and at times people recieve bills into the tens of thousands of dollars.

The sheriff’s office said hikers should also have multiple methods of wayfinding. “Do not simply rely on your cellphone or Garmin, and stop to verify that you are on the correct route often.”
The Clear Creek Route on Mt. Shasta, which the three hikers wandered onto, is not a technical mountaineering route, but officials say it still requires climbers to be physically fit and prepared for unforeseen circumstances, such as an injury, inclement weather or an unplanned overnight stay.
“Serious accidents and fatalities occur on the Clear Creek route when individuals become lost and wander into more dangerous terrain, such as the Mud Creek drainage,” officials said on Facebook.

My closing here is Mr Sheriff from the office has sage advice “Do not simply rely on your cellphone or Garmin, and stop to verify that you are on the correct route often.” This man is our hero in the adventure because the three guys basically decided to conquer a mountain with a keyboard.

ed note: with the use of generative images as of late it looks like spelling issues is back on the menu. oh well its another perfect example of why not to use one single device as a way to get a result. Im keeping the errors its funny..

Attributions from:
The LA times – Lost in the algorithm: Hikers stranded on Mt. Shasta after following Gemini AI’s plan

Well now…..

Well after posting for 15 years on my former site I’ve decided that i am going to give this a try again! This site is always dedicated to coffee and the world around me.  So topics will be widely ranged.  I feel now is a good time to restart things and I have mirrored all my old post which I admit was a pain in the ass to move.  So with little fanfare I will say this site is open and the coffee is brewing!

New bike/Messing around

Well, after a year and half+ of not having a bike I finally got sick of the lack of Mobility. My old bike was a black mountian bike that i had used for at least 5 to 6 years and just from the amount of travel i put on the thing the bikes bearings were actaully Crushed from so much use. Well due to my condition, I really had put thought into what kind of bike and what I needed from it.

So For one it had to be

  • Light for one (i’ve lost alot of strenght in my arms due to condition)
  • Cheap enough not to break the bank
  • Good construction (dont need it to fall appart while riding)
  • Something to last Awhile

Well After going to a few Stores i finally ended up with this.

Even thought his bike appears to be heavy you would be Surprised when you pick it up . This morning I decided to give this thing a test and run up the bike path near my house – its a nice path Currently this path is cut in half through by construction that is taking forever to complete, I choose the bike path thinking it would be good try out for the bike. theres barely any hills (i did not want the bike to come appart in a hilly area where i’d have to carry up or down hills to come home.

I had Also taken my camera along to see how well i could support the camera bag while riding the bike and along the way I would stop and take pictures of whatever interested me at the time. about 1 mile up the path I found a Rather large Collective Of turtles. it was crazy to see so many in one place.

After the bike path I continued on to some woods near my house since the bike path just has alot of people on and not nessarly the nicest people or people that generally have any inteligence when it comes to a bike path , Useaully bike paths have set travel lanes and really what happens Is you end up have someone not paying attention to you at all as you comming up/down the bike path swing out in front of you or totally ignore you. which is completely fucking annoying . so after i Calmed down a bit – I had my phone and was talking with a good friend over AIM via my phone – I figured i’d play with the depth of field with my camera and enjoy the peace of not having idoits around .

Interestingly enough that message came up When i took the picture and i did not realize that till after the fact

but as far as having a bike again to travel it really makes traveling very enjoyable rather than walking all over the damn place. and having my camera along made it abit more fun just to mess arouund with it and go from places to place taking pictures


The picture above is a farm that is a shot distance from my home but I did found some interesting ways to vary the subjects of my pictures and trying not to kill myself since i have not road a bike in over a year.

there is a small water fall in this farm area when i walked up to it iw as completely oblivous to these frogs and there was more than 3 or 4in the water i did not notice.